The following is from Bv’s comment in this post:
Track Down Part 4
Here’s Bv’s Question:
IN PART 4 rare galactic alignment - TALKING ABOUT THE GALACTIC YEAR - - IT WASN’T QUITE CLEAR ABOUT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE - I NOW UNDERSTAND THAT WE - (OR RATHER THE SUN - BUT DO THE PLANETS CROSS AT A DIFFERENT TIME??? - PLUTO IS 240 YRS IN ORBIT) , ANYWAY THE SUN BEGAN CROSSING OVER THE EQUATOR IN 1955, HIT ZERO DEGREES 12/21/97 AND IS NOW MOVING AWAY FROM IT
BUT
DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE INDEED GONE THRU THE GALACTIC YEAR AND MOVED FROM THE NORTHERN TO THE SOUTHERN GALACTIC HEMISPHERE? SEEMS SO IF I AM UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.
This is something Jag and I talked about when Part 4 was in production — the problem of clearly explaining the difference between “our view from Earth” of the Sun crossing the Galactic Equator and our entire Solar System crossing over. There is most definitely a difference.
In the History Channel documentary there are several things that seem to be talking about the same thing - but are not. That can get very confusing of course.
Here’s what we’re working with that is mentioned in the History Channel piece…
- A “rare galactic alignment” is mentioned. (What that galactic alignment is, isn’t made clear.)
- Then Daniel Pinchbeck talks about crossing over the “galactic equator”.
- A 25,800 year cycle is thrown into the pot.
From this collection of parts one can easily assume the “rare galactic alignment” that takes place every 25,800 years “could be” our solar system crossing over the Galactic Equator, which “might ultimately be” responsible for devastation on earth.
Okay. There is a cycle called precession that is roughly 26,000 years in length.
Precession of the Earth, is the only cycle that even comes close to matching the periodicity mentioned in the History Channel piece - and by the way - it is also the cycle that has been associated to the Mayan calendar by several authors (for years) as a hypothesis to answer why the Mayan calendar ends on a particular date (i.e., December 21, 2012) — we’ll deal with this in more detail in the next segment of the TRACK DOWN series.
The precessional cycle has nothing to do with our solar system crossing over the actual (physical) Galactic Equator of the Milky Way. These are two different things.
So far we have two mis-matched items:
- (1) precession: a 25,800 year cycle AND
- (2) the Galactic Year cycle: which is actually a much larger cycle (240-250 million years) which does include an actual crossing over the physical Galactic Equator in a sinusoidal rhythmic movement.
Completely DIFFERENT topics are fused together in the History Channel piece. It’s highly likely this fusing together came from the experts interviewed for the show, though there’s no way of knowing that for certain.
The precessional cycle of the Earth has nothing to do with physically crossing over the Galactic Equator.
The Sun only appears to cross the center of the Milky Way from our perspective on Earth.
To picture this: Take a pencil or pen and hold it up in front of your field of vision. At a distance of just 100 feet you can hide a car behind the pencil. Go ahead and try it right now.
If you move your position in relation to the pencil you can hide a building. What is seen or what is hidden depends on YOUR perspective in relation to the pencil and the car or building.
From our perspective on Earth, the background of the heavens behind our Sun changes. This happens because our Earthly perspective changes as the Earth rotates and moves around the Sun.
Do you see the difference between the Sun appearing to be crossing the center of the Milky Way from our view of it on Earth and our entire Solar System (including all the planets and moons) actually crossing over the Galactic Equator of the Milky Way? These are two entirely different things.
Our Solar System did literally cross over the Galactic Equator - or galactic mid-plane - 3 MILLION years ago. This won’t happen again for some 60 million years. This event is behind us at this point. Therefore… there will be no crossing from South to North and no potential destruction on earth as a result of that.
In the question quoted at the beginning of this post, the orbit of Pluto came up. The planets are not a factor here.
So… where does precession fits into the 2012 story? That’s coming up in our next segment.
Now that we’ve de-tangled some of the information that simply does not belong together, we can toss out the idea there will be potential destruction on Earth, as a result of crossing the actual galactic mid-plane. That’s not going to happen in December 2012 — it won’t happen again for 60 million years.
Stay tuned for the next segment in the TRACK DOWN: Mayan Calendar 2012 Connection
Peacefully,
Andi Mac
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Very fascinating to follow the evolution of this body of e-merging information you are co-creating.
My penny’s worth; the physical manifestations are merely a smoke screen ‘over’ the ‘real’ issue.
My current understanding is that the calendar is not about physical phenomena as such, even though it can be related to the physical phenomena and is of course because it is called a calendar. This is all a bit of a paradox. The physical phenomena are manifestations of consciousness and not vice versa. The calendar is rather a tool for refining the understanding of the Divine Plan (expression of the Hunab Ku in all that we do), which is the evolution of consciousness. The end date is perhaps not to be linked to a physical phenomena at all, this is a confusion in my view.
The only evolution that really matters is that of consciousness (and all matters/matter follow that in a sense).
The key to our collective destiny is that it is a shared event; a co-creation if you will. There is a lot of amnesia associated with the human condition and the remembering of that which we chose to forget when we incarnated (spirit chooses to adopt a human vehicle for experience and… service perhaps, of self interest or of collective harmony, or woteva!!) is at core of the evolution of consciousness surely.
There is a duality manifest within material creation (it requires it); yet there is a ’state of consciousness’ wherein one experiences the unity field of consciousness from which all this phenomena arises.
This is in my view the sole reason the calendar has an end date, when the unity field is again ‘known’ as a direct experience; then there is nowhere left to go in terms of journey and time ceases to exist as it previously did. THE ALL is forever transformed, yet it isn’t, it remains as an eternal event.
Blessings for you in all you do.
Hello Maxim!
You wrote:
Yes… yes… yes and yes again.
And as you mention in your comment it is indeed VERY easy to confuse physical phenomena with what the Mayan calendar is really about.
However, this is done all the time. That’s exactly why we’re doing the TRACK DOWN Series to speak to those things that have taken center stage - QUESTION them and find if there’s real value there.
So far, we have found there isn’t nearly as much that’s Real as is being suggested.
But the mind is a curious thing…
Mind seeks *proof* for what it believes.
Mind finds *proof* everywhere. It builds a catalog of pictures (or ideals) to support the beliefs and they will remain in charge of your life as long as they are left unquestioned.
You wrote:
Is that true? Have you questioned this?
I hear this one a lot. It sounds logical… reasonable… it sounds like what everyone *should be* concentrating on.
What does it produce when YOUR conscious evolution DEPENDS on what everyone else does?
I notice: It drives you to make other people live up to whatever your definition is of conscious evolution. It puts you out of your business and into the business of everyone else. It instantly and immediately separates you from you and that’s not only painful, it’s lonely, difficult and a constant struggle.
This is one of conditioned mind’s most clever tricks to keep it’s beliefs in-tact that *it* (mind) knows what other’s should be doing.
Evolution of consciousness is a group effort. Is that true?
Question this and post back here what you find…
- Andi
thank you so much for this clarification…i await your next piece with great anticipation
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE RECENT SERIES PTS 1-4..
IT`S GREAT THAT WE CAN CLEAR UP THE PREDICTIONS ETC..
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT PART EARNESTLY..ROSS
You said:
“Question this and post back here what you find…”
Also you said; This is one of conditioned mind’s most clever tricks to keep it’s beliefs in-tact that *it* (mind) knows what other’s should be doing.
Check ‘mate’:
I really don’t need to (question this).
I did not share this without considerable reflection and a desire to help others here to see the wood from the tree as my contribution to this community process.
“The key to our collective destiny is that it is a shared event; a co-creation if you will.”
Andi; Yes,it is true; and this does not for one moment imply that ‘ONES conscious evolution DEPENDS on what everyone else does?’
IMHO ‘ONES conscious evolution is is a direct result of the Divine “I AM” playing though (and with) an individuated personality and the individuals choice as to how and where they focus awareness. And thus it is not a mind **** when one says I am seeing myself in you and all the individuated aspects of the creators expression.
It is merely an observation made over many years (and perhaps many life times) that our conscious evolution is taking place (within the UNITY FIELD)in a shared event which I call the ‘Sacred Now’.
Evolution of consciousness is a group effort. Is that true?
Andi; NO not at all (BUT YES TOO!!). This is not what I have attempted to share here.
I think you missed the point. I believe you are assuming things I have not said or intended to say here.
Dearest Maxim,
If it appeared somehow Maxm that I assumed you had not reflected on your post then I apologize for any part I played in that.
I simply cannot imagine - in any way - that you wouldn’t have reflected on everything you said here — perhaps for a lifetime indeed! There is nothing to defend my darling freind. I hold you in the highest possible regard and have the utmost confidence that you would only ever share what you hold as true.
If at any time you say to me “Andi question that. I’d love to! In fact let’s do it together! That would even be better.”
To question an idea that is believed opens the field to new insights. New insights are so powerful. They lead to living in freedom, not just talking about it for someday in the future.
Freedom is really never a problem — it’s what impedes freedom and what produces anxiety, difficulty and heartache that’s worth questioning.
If an idea sounds really good and you begin to live your life by it, is it not worth questioning? If it stands up in your experience then all the better!
If it’s not something that can actually be lived but only believed because there’s no way to actually prove it’s true or not true… then on the back burner it goes until there’s an opportunity to find out if it’s reality or not.
It’s so very easy to wander off into opinion, which is simply philosophy (a way to endlessly debate things that cannot be proven) which takes mind right back into the story.
Stay with the work and something miraculous happens!
I love that it’s your desire to give - and I’m clear that it is your nature to do so, as it is the nature of every human being to do so… whether we know it or not.
If you feel I missed your point then please tell me more. There is nothing to defend here… no way you can be wrong in my eyes.
Thrilled to awaken every moment,
Andi
Hi Andi;
I said.
“My current understanding is that the calendar is not about physical phenomena as such, even though it can be related to the physical phenomena and is of course because it is called a calendar. This is all a bit of a paradox. The physical phenomena are manifestations of consciousness and not vice versa.”
You said; “But the mind is a curious thing…
This is minds role and job (to be curious and analyze)
This is not however, IMHO the best vehicle for understanding the secret of conscious co creation.
This in my view is the key role of the calendar (there are any number of other functions too); to support the evolution of a truly conscious being at one as ONE within the Unity Field of creation.
As our local creation myths tell us.
The longest journey that any human being is called to make is a journey of four hand spans. It is the journey from the head to the heart and this from my experience is only the start. For the more important journey is the return path; to bring this embraced awareness into a living and dynamic relationship within community thereby discovering the true UNITY within community.
The 13 ahau is a potently clear channel for Hunab Ku coming through. Ahhh, the bliss contained within this divine harmonious pulsation.
You said; “Evolution of consciousness is a group effort. Is that true?”
I say; Yes it is in my experience and no also~~~; for that this is an individual journey is a part of the illusion created by mind believing it alone is the vehicle of conscious awareness. All that is, is in a constant dynamic transforming relationship. And what a magnificent vessel that is.
Blessings; there is nothing to defend or mend just a journey to be shared. There is a way (Tao) that is beyond “right and wrong” Let us simply share our experience and the reflections upon that.
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OH my… Maxim you mistook the phrase “the mind is a curious thing” as meaning the mind is curious as in an activity it performs. I wasn’t using “curious” in that context. I meant the mind is curious in the way it operates.
Our conversation here proves the point being made… that minds grabs holds of an idea and runs with it. It’s not generally done consciously - it’s automatic.
There are many categories, lists, definitions for things and ideals in place and they do play a role in what we *see* (as in understand) without realizing it’s even happening… until we begin to notice. This is what I am talking about here.
It is true in my experience (not speaking for anyone else) that there IS a way beyond right and wrong… it is also true and so far I have not found a a single exception, that a fully functioning human survival system is present within humanity that twists and turns reality to support what the mind believes. This isn’t something to get excited about or feel badly about - it’s how we function. If it weren’t, we wouldn’t even be able to have this conversation at all. There are many things about how mind operates within human beings that extraordinarily… are shared!
Where this operates and the best place to look to see it clearly - is not in philosophical conversations — but instead in the day-to-day moments. For example, when you get a parking ticket, or when someone doesn’t do what you want, or when things we think should go one way go another, or when we feel slighted, misunderstood, disrespected or find ourselves embarrassed (notice that you don’t choose to be embarrassed, it happens) - this is where a conscious mind can be cultivated.
The first step - as simple as it is - is to observe how mind instantaneously re-acts to the environment and to thoughts that pass through. There’s an inner survival code running on auto-pilot and this can be tested quite easily.
That was the point being made.
- Andi Mac